23 Dec 2008

WordPress Plugin v2.0.17

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Yet another revision of the IntenseDebate WordPress plugin is here.  So what’s different?  Quite a bit…

The most notable change is in the initial registration.  We’ve completely rebuilt the interface for initial registration of your blog with IntenseDebate to help make the process even easier and better explain what is happening during this one-time registration to clear up some confusion that was circling around the previous versions.  Below are a couple of screenshots of the new registration:

We’ve also addressed some display bugs when using our plugin with the latest 2.7 release of WordPress.

Additionally, we continue to improve the syncing between IntenseDebate and WordPress. We’ve now added a method to help us detect if your blog ends up out of sync with IntenseDebate and automatically correct the issue.

And last but not least we’ve heard your cries for XHTML validation and made some improvements to the code to address this, as well as alleviating some plugin conflicts with a handful of other plugins that conflicted with the previous version of our plugin.

If you’re an existing plugin user you can update from your Plugins page in your blog’s WordPress admin panel.  If not (or if you prefer to upgrade yourself) you can download the plugin here.  As always, give us your feedback!  We’d love to hear what you think and any suggestions you might have for making the integration with WordPress even better.

Posted by Jon Fox in WordPress Plugin


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58 Comments »

  1. Thanks for the update guys!

    Comment by agenttrav — December 23, 2008 @ 1:28 am
  2. blogger members forgoten again😦

    Comment by Dav7 — December 23, 2008 @ 1:41 am
  3. Thanks for the update guys. Glad to hear you've improved the ID <-> WP sync. The setup process is a bit more elegant as well.

    Comment by Bwana — December 23, 2008 @ 2:19 am
  4. I'd love it if you could add the ability to sync comments from IDC back to WordPress. I've got one blog I use IDC on that has a number of comments on it that show up just fine in IDC but that don't show up in my WordPress database or dashboard. Other than that, things look better and better with each new update!

    Comment by Jim (TTL Demag0gue) — December 23, 2008 @ 3:11 am
  5. Jim, we're working on this and will have it in the future. Sometimes we encounter an issue contacting your server when we sync back a new comment creating this discrepancy.

    Comment by Michael Koenig — December 23, 2008 @ 6:41 am
  6. That makes sense. IDC has already made such great leaps since I first started using it, so I'm looking forward to seeing what other improvements you guys make. 🙂

    Comment by Jim (TTL Demag0gue) — December 23, 2008 @ 7:02 am
  7. thanks for the update. is there a support forum, or perhaps this is the best place to ask questions. Or email is still the best venue?

    Comment by Ben Atlas — December 23, 2008 @ 4:59 am
  8. We use Get Satisfaction for our support forum. You can also email support.

    Comment by Michael Koenig — December 23, 2008 @ 6:35 am
  9. Intense Debate is grossly flawed. There are people who are spamming the boards with minus ratings for no reason other than meanness and ID has chosen to ignore the complaints. It has gotten to the point that the ratings are meaningless and still ID does nothing, and they refuse to give a reply one way or another.
    When are you going to DO something?

    Comment by Glassman — December 23, 2008 @ 12:47 pm
  10. This is a concern of ours. We're looking at possible solutions, however there are several hurdles. How should comment voting be regulated to prevent this? How can it be regulated without restricting your ability to genuinely vote a comment down?

    While there are other issues, those are the two main concerns at the moment. We'd love your feedback on how to improve this system.

    Comment by Michael Koenig — December 23, 2008 @ 6:33 am
  11. We'd love your feedback on how to improve this system.

    Well… http://getsatisfaction.com/intensedebate/topics/r

    Comment by db0 — December 24, 2008 @ 11:44 am
  12. Why not set it up so that a person can give no more than 50% of their ratings as negative ratings. That would get rid of the goof-balls who just click thumbs down constantly. Or, if you see a user with, say 20 or more negative ratings in a row, just ban their ability to rate.

    Comment by Dajad — December 31, 2008 @ 4:41 am
  13. Thanks for the feedback Dale. We'll look into this. However this won't solve the issue of preventing people from creating fake accounts to vote comments down.

    Comment by Michael Koenig — December 31, 2008 @ 8:16 am
  14. That's actually quite a smart idea…

    Comment by Paul Tan — February 13, 2009 @ 8:36 pm
  15. why do I have to import all comments again after upgrading the plugin? that doesn't make sense to me at all.

    Comment by Nico — December 23, 2008 @ 7:55 am
  16. You don't have to. If you've already imported your comments, you can just skip that step (it's what I did). 🙂

    Comment by Jim (TTL Demag0gue) — December 23, 2008 @ 3:14 am
  17. It doesn't give you an option to skip. I just upgraded on my WP 2.7 blog and the ID settings page just gave me one option – import comments. My reaction was 'Wtf?'.

    Comment by neville — December 23, 2008 @ 5:21 am
  18. That's strange. I upgraded on all four of my sites that use IDC, and they all gave me the option to skip the import process.

    Comment by Jim (TTL Demag0gue) — December 23, 2008 @ 5:45 am
  19. It's not a complete import process when you update your plugin. We imports any comments that were posted in WordPress after your last import just to make sure everything is synced properly.

    Comment by Michael Koenig — December 23, 2008 @ 6:37 am
  20. It'd be nice for the WordPress plugin to have it's own versions of the javascript widgets that you can just pick in your theme widget setup with cached data to make them fast.

    Regardless of that though, it all works impressively well. I had some layout problems initially but there are options there for turning different styling on and off that worked like a charm. Keep up the good work!🙂

    Comment by publicenergy — December 24, 2008 @ 1:35 am
  21. Awesome idea!

    Comment by Chris — January 1, 2009 @ 11:28 am
  22. Can you tell us which plugin conflicts you resolved? I've been hoping that the MCEComments plugin and ID would be able to play together, but so far that plugin doesn't seem to work with the new ID plugin.

    Comment by Philip Barron — December 24, 2008 @ 3:54 am
  23. What blogs are using IntenseDebate? It would be cool to see which blogs are using the services of ID.

    Comment by Thao Ly — December 24, 2008 @ 7:15 am
  24. Thanks for the quick reply Austin.

    Per #2 On my main page (GrassrootsPA.com) Firefox displays the number of comments under each story but those number just don't want to pop up under IE. Any idea why? Out of all the problems this is the biggest for me.

    Comment by Chris — December 30, 2008 @ 1:03 am
  25. Guys, have a host of issues with WordPress and your new plugin. LOVE the idea of IntenseDebate but none of these issues have been fixed since the previous plugin.

    1) When Intense Debate is installed "Recent Comment/Discussions" style Widgets and Plugins do not work properly, do not see all the comments. Your supplied widgets are great but I have a news style site and need widgets to show recent hot stories, etc. IntenseDebate messes this up entirely.

    2) In both Firefox and Internet Explorer my site takes MUCH longer to load.

    3) In Internet Explorer the number of comments (example: (3), or (5) or (11) etc) under each post simply do not show. In Firefox it takes a while for this number to show (please, can you do something so the number pops right up? This is too slow and defeats the point of my news site entirely (want to show immediately which stories are hot, which ones people comment heavily on)

    4) Maybe I am not understanding this correctly, but I thought there was a way to prevent folks from commenting unless they supply their email. Have been using WordPress to require all commenters to supply an email, but with IntenseDebate it seems anyone can comment regardless of whether or not they supply an email or not. Huh? Trolls will abuse my site if I do not require folks to supply an email. Can you please fix this or supply a working method/option to prevent new comments unless one supplies an email?

    Again, love the concept of IntenseDebate but the downsides greatly outweigh the upside at this point in development (slow speed, missing comments in conjunction with other recent comments/topics widgets, no way to block those not supplying email, number of comments under each post not showing in IE)

    Comment by Chris — December 30, 2008 @ 12:38 pm
  26. 1) With the new WordPress plugin, your comments should show up in your WordPress database as well, thus, the widgets you might have had before that show recent hot stories should still work. If they don't, let me know.

    2) Is it just the main page ( http://grassrootspa.com/) or the specific posts as well ( http://grassrootspa.com/?p=17585) that take longer to load?

    3) Unfortunately, we can't make the comment links immediately show, as IntenseDebate is designed to load last (to prevent slowing down your site)

    4) You can require your commenters to be an IntenseDebate user (meaning they'll have entered their email) here: http://intensedebate.com/editacct/91864under "Comment Posting"

    Comment by Austin Hallock — December 30, 2008 @ 12:50 pm
  27. Thanks for the quick reply Austin.

    Per #2 On my main page (GrassrootsPA.com) Firefox displays the number of comments under each story but those number just don't want to pop up under IE. Just seems to be happening on my main page. Any idea why? Out of all the problems this is the biggest for me.

    Comment by Chris — December 30, 2008 @ 1:04 am
  28. Heads up, Austin,

    I switched "IntenseDebate Enhanced Comment Links" back to the default WordPress links and now my site loads a ZILLION times faster.

    Best of all in both Internet Explorer and Firefox comment numbers (example (3) comments, (4) comments) show up once again.

    It looks like there is some sort of bug within "IntenseDebate Enhanced Comment Links" which prevents Internet Explorer from properly displaying comment numbers on the main page (and causing a huge slowdown in Firefox).

    Still don't know why the default WordPress setting requiring one to supply an email WILL NOT work right.

    Any chance you can include this in a future release. I imagine I'm not the only one who wants those leaving comments to use an email.

    Comment by Chris — December 30, 2008 @ 3:15 am
  29. Count me as someone that wants that. I'm still debating adding ID to my blogs. I prefer Discus but with Automatic's purchase of ID it looks ike Discus will be shut out of the game in the future (for all practical purposes). Meanwhile I require my users to include an email address and I certainly do not want to force them to have an ID user id in order to save a comment.

    Comment by Dajad — December 31, 2008 @ 4:47 am
  30. I knew there was someone else out there who wanted to require email addresses! Thanks Dajad. Anyone else feel the same?!?

    Comment by Chris — December 31, 2008 @ 4:51 am
  31. I would also like the require email address feature

    Comment by Bill Gray — February 23, 2009 @ 12:07 am
  32. Is there a 'how to' page anywhere on what is needed to modify a template to work with ID. I have upgrade all my blogs to WP 2.7 and am PHP savvy enough to figure it out if there were up-to-date template modification insturctions somewhere. I can't go back to my orignal template creator's template in hopes they have an update because my template is so heavily modified from the original.

    Thanks.

    Comment by Dajad — December 31, 2008 @ 4:49 am
  33. Is there a solution yet to the threading issue? I thought with ID, that threaded posts (ie: replies to prior comments) were not properly handled when ID synced with a WP blog's comment database. What will happen to those threaded comments if I leave ID?

    …Dale

    Comment by Dale Dietrich — December 31, 2008 @ 4:59 am
  34. whats up with the new release last night 2.18? any new features or just bugs?

    Comment by Ben Atlas — December 31, 2008 @ 12:32 pm
  35. Can't seem to notice anything new from 2.17. Was the 'Auto Login' WordPress setting in 2.17?

    Comment by Chris — December 31, 2008 @ 2:32 am
  36. 2.0.18 is a bug fix to limit max length of the debug log.

    There was an importer issue with version 2.0.17 which has been fixed with 2.0.18. The issue had to deal with upgrading the plugin. WordPress deactivated and reactivated the plugin during the upgrade, but the reactivation wasn't registering on our end. Our system identified your plugin as being deactivated which stopped the import.

    Comment by Michael Koenig — December 31, 2008 @ 8:21 am
  37. will you integrate Seesmic and FB connect?

    Comment by Ben Atlas — December 31, 2008 @ 12:33 pm
  38. We're looking into it!

    Comment by Michael Koenig — December 31, 2008 @ 8:22 am
  39. please focus on the core first. you are a commenting gadget first. I think the trend to be a social network is redundant. I would rather see you fixing your widgets first. Commenting widgets, i.e. recent comments is your core functionality and it is still the slowest item to load on the page, uncustomizible, etc. People want to come on the site and get out. They already belong to 300 networks, another network makes them nauseous, no matter the benefit. A name should be linked to a web site not to point to my twitter account for example. I can take care of that myself, trust me.

    You still got a lot of work to do with graphics, with this simple goal – less flashy minimalist interface, less intimidating, more inviting for people to
    comment.

    Comment by Ben Atlas — December 31, 2008 @ 8:58 am
  40. It would be awesome if those widgets loaded faster.

    Comment by Chris — January 1, 2009 @ 2:51 am
  41. Agreed!

    Comment by mike — January 3, 2009 @ 8:51 am
  42. The plugin does not work in Firefox for my blog.
    If you try to make a comment, the boxes where you can fill in your comment shows up for a brief moment but as the page loads, these boxes collapse and disappear.
    You are left with your avatar and login name and under it you see the submit button. But nowhere to write your comment!
    It works perfectly in IE though.
    As far as I know, I have the last version of Firefox.

    Comment by Sussi — January 1, 2009 @ 2:23 am
  43. It's working fine in my various firefox implemenations across three PC's, one of which is an iMac.

    Comment by Dale Dietrich — January 6, 2009 @ 7:47 am
  44. thanks for this updates,latest version 2.0.17 which has been fixed with 2.0.18.

    Comment by simmondia — January 2, 2009 @ 2:11 am
  45. Love the updated plug-in but I have a couple problems which I imagine are easily fixable on my end.

    1. I've found that by using IntenseDebate and "recent comment" type plug-ins, those plug-ins supply the incorrect links to the actual comment. The #comment-ID link supplied by these types of plug-ins obviously does not properly link to the ID comment, so when a user clicks on the comment link they're not taken to the correct location on the page. Is this fixable without having to use the ID recent comments widget? I would rather use a local plug-in for a couple reasons: 1) speed and 2) completely customizable.

    2. I've opted to use CSS to modify the default height of the comment textarea. As soon as I enter the textarea and start typing the area contracts to the default size. Any way it can stay the same size *I* specify?

    Thanks for a great plug-in otherwise!

    Comment by Scott Jarkoff — January 2, 2009 @ 7:50 am
  46. For anyone that is interested, I wrote a rather detailed 'how-to' type post on how to add Intense Debate into a WordPress 2.7 blog:

    http://www.daleisphere.com/how-to-install-intense

    While I obviously like it (wouldn't have installed it if I didn't). I have a few issues so far:

    – My template's css isn't working and the comments are flush left on my blog
    – I don't like the default Intense Debate avatar. It's kind of dull and grey. In WP. 2.6/2.7 you can choose a set of changing and colorful detailed default avatars. I'd really like to see this changed.
    – I don't like that I can't force users to enter an email address. This has resulted in MUCH more anonymous spam than before.
    – I would REALLY love for there to be some cross-community features between ID, Disqus and others so that commenter reputations, histories, profiles etc. work across all comment systems. I love the competition but don't much like the 'comment islands unto themselves' created by this competition.
    – I had significant problems getting the installation to work on two of my three blogs, even with the latest 2.0.18 plugin. But the support team was marvelous and really helped out (over weekends and even on New Years Eve). So BIG thumbs up to the support/development team (Jon and Austin in particular) for going the extra mile to get the wrinkles worked out.
    – most of my commenters are NOT ID users, so it's a bit of a waste land for now. I'm hoping some will choose to sign up.

    I'm looking forward to seeing how this all works out.

    …Dale

    Comment by Dale Dietrich — January 6, 2009 @ 7:44 am
  47. Oh yes, the 'IntenseDebate Enhanced Moderation' option screws up the comment moderation page in my WordPress 2.7 dashboard. It makes the page only a few inches long instead of the entire length of my open browser. So, I have that option unchecked for now.

    Comment by Dale Dietrich — January 6, 2009 @ 7:52 am
  48. If Intense Debate wasn't by far the superior commenting system, I would have dropped it a long time ago. Integration with Facebook Connect is a must. This might seem trivial to some but it's a must for me. Any word on whether or not ID plans on a Facebook integration? I'm willing to pay someone that can cohesively integrate ID and FB connect into my WordPress 2.7 blog.

    Comment by jaxonpalmer — January 15, 2009 @ 11:50 pm
  49. Agree 100% Alex.

    Comment by Chris — February 18, 2009 @ 6:55 am
  50. Thanks for the update guys, fox did a great job and I like this comment system.

    Comment by developer — January 30, 2009 @ 5:49 pm
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    Comment by prem — February 4, 2009 @ 3:59 pm
  52. and a Exporting tool if something doesn't work?

    Comment by ffuentes — February 10, 2009 @ 7:14 am
  53. Why does the plugin try to export the comments again? I have been using Intense Debate on my blogs for quiet some time now.

    Comment by Vlad Zablotskyy — February 11, 2009 @ 3:23 pm
  54. I have only been known to comment on 1 site, but I have regularly noticed the submit or reply buttons have been greyed out, while I am actually logged in. (at this very moment, both at the same time)

    Is this a technical issue of intensedebate or a technical issue of the blog that uses it ? Because I am posting this here with no problems, but I am unable to submit a comment while I am still logged in on the blog I wanted to post a comment on in the first place.

    Comment by flippinheck — February 16, 2009 @ 2:03 pm
  55. It sounds like the site admins have closed comments on that post. Can you provide me with a specific link please?

    Comment by Michael Koenig — February 16, 2009 @ 4:07 pm
  56. I posted a comment on a specific thread on Jihadwatch after opening the Opera browser. (Yes, I do use multiple browsers if things get awkward) This seemed to do the trick, for whatever reason.

    I get the impression that this problem (more often than not) occurs in Internet Explorer rather than in any other browser. (The only thing I do know is that IE has been reported as being more buggy than say Opera, Mozilla or Netscape) Allthough I use a firewall in combination with Spybot S&D and half a dozen 'temporary files' cleaners and registry defragmentation tools, this did not solve the problem.

    So I am glad to say I resolved the issue by using Opera. Nevertheless, thank you very much for the swift reply.

    Comment by flippinheck — February 16, 2009 @ 6:40 pm

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